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	<title>Comments on: More on LaunchPad + Bazaar vs. Lighthouse + Git[Hub]</title>
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		<title>By: David Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bazaar is *so nice*. I'm still sad I didn't convince the rest of the Adium team to go for it over Hg :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bazaar is *so nice*. I&#8217;m still sad I didn&#8217;t convince the rest of the Adium team to go for it over Hg :/</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; Am I correct in thinking registering for GitHub would only need to be done if you wanted to follow the repository via GitHub itself?

No, you can get an RSS feed anonymously, and you can put up a clone on your own web server if you'd like to avoid github altogether (except as a remote).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Am I correct in thinking registering for GitHub would only need to be done if you wanted to follow the repository via GitHub itself?</p>
<p>No, you can get an RSS feed anonymously, and you can put up a clone on your own web server if you&#8217;d like to avoid github altogether (except as a remote).</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Souder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Souder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I correct in thinking registering for GitHub would only need to be done if you wanted to follow the repository via GitHub itself? It seems like actions like cloning, pulling, pushing, etc could be done via git alone.

I am a newby to Git and GitHub, so I could be way off, but it doesn't seem that users of Sparkle would be put off by the use of Git. It would seem that even possible maintainers would not have to use GitHub's interface if they don't want to.

I do see a possible issue in picking a DVCS that isn't in use by many of your possible committers and users though. Especially considering Bazaar 1.4 doesn't seem to be easy to get going on OS X this second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I correct in thinking registering for GitHub would only need to be done if you wanted to follow the repository via GitHub itself? It seems like actions like cloning, pulling, pushing, etc could be done via git alone.</p>
<p>I am a newby to Git and GitHub, so I could be way off, but it doesn&#8217;t seem that users of Sparkle would be put off by the use of Git. It would seem that even possible maintainers would not have to use GitHub&#8217;s interface if they don&#8217;t want to.</p>
<p>I do see a possible issue in picking a DVCS that isn&#8217;t in use by many of your possible committers and users though. Especially considering Bazaar 1.4 doesn&#8217;t seem to be easy to get going on OS X this second.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus S. Zarra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus S. Zarra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, 

Another site you might want to consider is unfuddle as they now have git support.  Not sure if you have looked at them at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, </p>
<p>Another site you might want to consider is unfuddle as they now have git support.  Not sure if you have looked at them at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Matuschak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Matuschak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your feedback, guys!

I'm hearing a lot of "but Git is neat and not as hard as you think," which is cool, but if Git is easy, Bazaar is even easier. And LaunchPad has more features and is unified.

I guess my point is that I'm a lot more concerned about the GitHub+Lighthouse vs. LaunchPad part than the Git vs. Bazaar part. Any thoughts on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your feedback, guys!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hearing a lot of &#8220;but Git is neat and not as hard as you think,&#8221; which is cool, but if Git is easy, Bazaar is even easier. And LaunchPad has more features and is unified.</p>
<p>I guess my point is that I&#8217;m a lot more concerned about the GitHub+Lighthouse vs. LaunchPad part than the Git vs. Bazaar part. Any thoughts on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 04:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, git was historically difficult.  It was my daughter's (12) first revision control system and she didn't seem to have any trouble understanding it.

Note that git does have reasonably friendly revision numbers as long as you've tagged a version before (for example:  2.0.2-42-gef07611 -- that's 42 changes past my 2.0.2 release, plus a part of a hash to uniquely identify exactly *which* 42 changes after).

Before git, I was using mercurial, and before that, darcs and gnu arch.  bzr seems to have come from gnu arch, but from what I've read, it's much less pleasant to use.

Your post has inspired me to give it a go, but it doesn't run out of macports for me at the moment.

Overall, any project pulled off of subversion is a win for open source (I'm sure I've sent one of those patches you're complaining about).  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, git was historically difficult.  It was my daughter&#8217;s (12) first revision control system and she didn&#8217;t seem to have any trouble understanding it.</p>
<p>Note that git does have reasonably friendly revision numbers as long as you&#8217;ve tagged a version before (for example:  2.0.2-42-gef07611 &#8212; that&#8217;s 42 changes past my 2.0.2 release, plus a part of a hash to uniquely identify exactly *which* 42 changes after).</p>
<p>Before git, I was using mercurial, and before that, darcs and gnu arch.  bzr seems to have come from gnu arch, but from what I&#8217;ve read, it&#8217;s much less pleasant to use.</p>
<p>Your post has inspired me to give it a go, but it doesn&#8217;t run out of macports for me at the moment.</p>
<p>Overall, any project pulled off of subversion is a win for open source (I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve sent one of those patches you&#8217;re complaining about).  <img src='http://andymatuschak.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Rob Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 04:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm still not really clear what confuses you about git. Mind you, it doesn't particularly matter—I'm not going to argue that your comfort level with bazaar is somehow "wrong"!—it's mainly confusion on my part because I grokked git pretty easily.

I think it might be partly timing. I came to git pretty recently, and it's a much more usable system now than it had been, or so I'm told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not really clear what confuses you about git. Mind you, it doesn&#8217;t particularly matter—I&#8217;m not going to argue that your comfort level with bazaar is somehow &#8220;wrong&#8221;!—it&#8217;s mainly confusion on my part because I grokked git pretty easily.</p>
<p>I think it might be partly timing. I came to git pretty recently, and it&#8217;s a much more usable system now than it had been, or so I&#8217;m told.</p>
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